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Hello, everyone, and welcome to TalkCast Discovery, the podcast where we step off the beaten track
大家好，欢迎收听 TalkCast Discovery，这是一档带我们另辟蹊径的播客节目
and dive deep into the cultural soul of the world's most fascinating places.
深入探寻世界上那些最迷人之地的文化灵魂。
I am your host, Emily.
我是你们的主持人艾米丽。
Today, we are traveling to a city in southern China that is a dazzling mixture of hypermodern energy
今天，我们将前往中国南方的一座城市，那里是超现代活力的璀璨融合
and ancient slow -paced traditions.
与古老的慢节奏传统。
It is a place of blooming flowers, sweet aromas, and a lifestyle that revolves around the art of
那是一个鲜花盛开、香气怡人的地方，其生活方式围绕着一门艺术展开，那就是
taking things slow.
放慢步调的艺术。
Yes, we are visiting Guangzhou, also historically known as Canton.
是的，我们要访问广州，它在历史上也被称为 Canton。
To help us uncover the layers of this beautiful city, I am joined by David, a local cultural
为了帮我们揭开这座美丽城市的重重面纱，我邀请到了大卫，他是一位当地的文化
historian and food writer who was born and raised in the historic Xiguang district of Guangzhou.
历史学家兼美食作家，他土生土长于广州历史悠久的西关区。
David, welcome to the show.
大卫，欢迎来到我们的节目。
Thank you so much, Emily.
谢谢你，艾米丽。
It is an absolute pleasure to be here with you and our listeners today.
今天能和您以及我们的听众在一起，真是莫大的荣幸。
Whenever I think of my hometown, Guangzhou, I immediately smell the fresh jasmine tea and hear the
每当我想到我的家乡广州，我立刻就能闻到新鲜的茉莉花茶香，并听到
gentle clinking of porcelain teacups in the morning mist.
晨雾中瓷茶杯轻轻碰撞的声音。
It is a city that truly lives through its senses, and I cannot wait to share its stories with
这是一座真正用感官去活的城市，我迫不及待地想分享它的故事给
everyone today.
今天的每一个人。
Oh, that sounds incredibly inviting already.
噢，听起来已经让人无比心动了。
I can almost smell the tea.
我几乎闻到了茶香。
Now, David, for many people who haven't visited, Guangzhou is often seen as this massive, high -tech
那么，大卫，对于许多没去过的人来说，广州常被视为一个庞大的、高科技的
industrial hub, a giant engine of trade.
工业枢纽，一个巨大的贸易引擎。
But as an historian, you know there is a much deeper story.
但作为一名历史学家，你知道这里有着深厚得多的故事。
Could you take us back in time?
你能带我们穿越时光吗？
How did Guangzhou become the cultural and historical gateway of southern China?
广州是如何成为中国南方的文化和历史门户的？
You are so right, Emily.
你说得太对了，艾米丽。
People often see the skyscrapers first, but Guangzhou has a history stretching back over 2200 years.
人们往往先看到的是摩天大楼，但广州的历史可以追溯到2200多年前。
Geographically, it sits perfectly at the mouth of the Pearl River, facing the South China Sea.
地理上，它完美地坐落在珠江口，面向南海。
Because of this prime location, it became the starting point of the maritime silk road. Imagine!
正因为这一得天独厚的地理位置，它成为了海上丝绸之路的起点。想象一下！
Hundreds of years ago, ships from Arabia, Persia, India, and Europe would sail up the river, loaded
数百年前，来自阿拉伯、波斯、印度和欧洲的船只驶入珠江，满载着
with spices, wool, and glass, and they would leave with Chinese silk, porcelain, and of course, tea.
香料、羊毛和玻璃，离开时则带走中国的丝绸、瓷器，当然还有茶叶。
During the Qing Dynasty, Guangzhou was actually the only Chinese port open to foreign trade under
在清朝时期，广州实际上是中国唯一开放外贸的港口，实行
what was called the Canton System.
所谓的“广州制度”（一口通商）。
This unique history made the city incredibly open -minded, cosmopolitan, and adaptable.
这段独特的历史使这座城市变得无比包容、国际化且适应力强。
It has always been a place where different cultures meet, blend, and create something completely new.
这里一直是一个不同文化相遇、融合并创造全新事物的场所。
That is fascinating.
那真是太迷人了。
A single gateway to the world.
通往世界的单一门户。
And you can still see that blend of cultures in the architecture, right?
而且你仍然可以在建筑中看到这种文化融合，对吧？
I have heard about these beautiful historic streets with buildings called kilu.
我听说过这些美丽的、历史悠久的街道，街道两旁有被称为“骑楼”的建筑。
Can you tell us what they are?
你能告诉我们它们是什么吗？
They sound so unique.
它们听起来太独特了。
Ah, yes, the kilu, or arcade buildings.
啊，是的，骑楼，也就是拱廊式建筑。
They are the perfect symbol of Guangzhou's architectural fusion.
它们是广州建筑融合的完美象征。
If you walk down old streets like Enning Road or Sungshaiju, you will see these continuous rows of
如果你走在像恩宁路或上下九（Sungshaiju）这样的老街上，你会看到一排排连续的
three - to four -story buildings.
三到四层的楼房。
The ground floor is recessed, creating a shaded, covered walkway for pedestrians, while the upper
一楼向内凹进，为行人创造了一条有遮阴、有顶盖的通道，而上层
floors protrude over the sidewalk, supported by columns.
楼层则在柱子的支撑下伸出到人行道上方。
This design is brilliant because Guangzhou has a very hot, rainy, and subtropical climate.
这种设计非常巧妙，因为广州属于非常炎热、多雨的亚热带气候。
With the kilu, you can walk miles of shopping streets, completely protected from both the scorching
有了骑楼，你可以逛上几英里的商业街，完全免受烈日
sun and sudden downpours.
和突降暴雨的侵袭。
Culturally, they are a beautiful blend of traditional southern Chinese shophouses and western
在文化上，它们是中国南方传统店屋与西方...
architectural details, like stained -glass windows and Romanesque columns.
建筑的细节，比如彩色玻璃窗和罗马式圆柱。
They are living history, and today, they still house bustling tea shops, traditional herbal medicine
它们是活生生的历史，如今依然容纳着热闹的茶馆、传统草药
stores, and noisy local eateries.
店铺以及嘈杂的本地餐馆。
I love that.
我喜欢那个。
It's architecture designed around human comfort and community.
这是围绕人类舒适和社区设计的建筑。
Speaking of old residential areas, I know you grew up in a traditional Xiquan mansion.
说到旧住宅区，我知道你在传统的西关大屋里长大。
What was that like?
那是什么样的？
I hear those houses have some very clever architectural secrets, too.
我听说那些房子也有一些非常巧妙的建筑秘密。
They really do.
它们确实有。
Growing up in a Xiquan mansion was like living in a functional work of art.
在西关大屋长大，就像生活在一件实用的艺术品中。
These houses are deep, narrow, and made of blue bricks.
这些房子又深又窄，是用青砖建成的。
One of the most famous features is the three -layered door system at the entrance.
最著名的特征之一是入口处的三层门系统。
The first layer is a low, swinging wooden gate, about waist -high, which keeps out stray animals but
第一层是一扇低矮的摇摆木门，大约及腰高，可以阻挡流浪的动物，但
lets in light and fresh air.
能让光线和新鲜的空气进来。
The second layer is what we call the tonglong, which is a sliding wooden screen made of thick,
第二层就是我们所说的“趟拢”，它是一个由粗木条制成的滑动的木屏风，
horizontal wooden bars.
横 向的木条。
It's incredibly sturdy for security, but because it's open, it allows the cool breeze to circulate
为了安全起见，它非常坚固，但因为它是敞开的，它可以让凉爽的微风循环
through the house.
穿过整个房子。
The third and final layer is the heavy, solid wooden main door.
第三层也是最后一层是厚重、坚实的木质大门。
In the hot summer, we would leave the main door open during the day, close the tonglong, and enjoy a
在炎热的夏天，我们白天会把大门打开，关上趟拢，并享受到
constant, natural breeze flowing from the front of the house to the small courtyard at the back.
源源不断的、自然的微风从房子前部流向后面的小院子。
It's ancient air conditioning at its finest.
这是最绝妙的古代空调。
That is absolutely genius.
那绝对是天才之作。
Natural ventilation built right into the front door.
自然通风直接融入了前门设计中。
I can picture you as a child, looking through those horizontal bars of the tonglong door at the busy
我可以想象你小时候，透过趟拢门的横木条看着外面繁忙的
street life outside.
户外街道生活。
Now, David, we simply cannot talk about Guangzhou without diving into its legendary food culture.
现在，大卫，谈到广州，我们绝不能不深入探讨它传奇的饮食文化。
There's a very famous Chinese saying, shi zai guangzhou, which translates to eating in guangzhou.
有一句非常有名的中文俗语叫“食在广州”，翻译过来就是“在广州吃”。
Why is the food culture here so highly celebrated?
为什么这里的饮食文化如此备受推崇？
Well, in guangzhou, food is not just nourishment.
在广州，食物不仅仅是营养。
It is our religion, our philosophy, and our primary way of showing love.
它是我们的信仰、我们的哲学，以及我们表达爱意的主要方式。
Cantonese cuisine, or yu zai, is famous because it focuses on preserving the natural, original
粤菜（Yue Cai）之所以闻名，是因为它专注于保留自然、原汁原味的
flavor of the ingredients.
食材的风味。
We use very little heavy spice.
我们极少使用重口味的香料。
Instead, we rely on absolute freshness.
相反，我们依赖绝对的新鲜度。
If a fish is caught in the morning, it is steamed with just a bit of ginger, scallions, and light
如果鱼是早上捕捞的，午餐时只需放少许姜丝、青葱和生抽
soy sauce by lunchtime.
清蒸，在午餐时间享用。
The texture must be tender, and the taste must be fresh, what we call xian.
口感必须鲜嫩，味道必须新鲜，也就是我们所说的“鲜”。
And of course, the ultimate expression of this food philosophy is our daily ritual of yum cha.
当然，这种美食哲学的终极体现就是我们日常的饮茶习惯。
Yum cha.
饮茶。
Now, for our English learners listening, let us break this down.
现在，让我们为收听节目的英语学习者们详细拆解一下。
Literally, yum cha means dritten tea.
字面上，“yum cha”的意思是喝茶。
But it is actually so much more than just a cup of tea, is it not?
但它实际上远不止一杯茶，不是吗？
It is the cultural home of dim sum. Precisely.
它是点心的文化发源地。确实如此。
Yum cha is the social glue of guangzhou.
饮茶是广州的社交纽带。
The word dim sum literally translates to touch the heart.
“点心”这个词字面意思翻译过来就是“触动心灵”。
These are bite -sized culinary delights served in steaming bamboo baskets.
这些是盛在热气腾腾的竹蒸笼里的一口大小的美食。
When you go for yum cha, you are there to relax with family and friends, gossip, read the newspaper,
当你去饮茶时，你是去和家人朋友一起放松、闲聊、看报纸，
and negotiate business.
以及商谈生意。
We have a phrase, yat zhong liang gin, which means one cup of tea and two pieces of dim sum.
我们有一个说法，叫“一盅两件”，意思是一杯茶和两件点心。
It represents the basic, simple starter pack of a beautiful morning.
它代表了美好清晨的基本、简单的启动包。
You sit down, the waiter asks you what kind of tea you want, maybe poor, jasmine, or chrysanthemum.
你坐下来，服务员问你想要什么茶，也许是普洱、茉莉或菊花茶。
Once the tea is served, the feast begins.
茶一上桌，盛宴就开始了。
My mouth is watering already.
我已经开始流口水了。
If you had to choose just a few essential dim sum dishes that our listeners must try, what would
如果你必须选择几道我们的听众必须品尝的必不可少的点心，那会是
they be?
它们呢？
Please, describe them so we can visualize them.
请描述一下它们，以便我们能在脑海中想象出它们的样子。
Oh, that is a tough choice.
哦，那真是个艰难的选择。
But there are three kings of dim sum.
但点心界有三大天王。
First is ha go, the shrimp dumplings.
首先是虾饺，即虾仁饺子。
A perfect ha go has a wrapper that is translucent like paper, yet strong enough not to break when
一个完美的虾饺，其外皮像纸一样半透明，但又足够坚韧，在
you pick it up with chopsticks.
你用筷子夹起它时不会破。
Inside, the shrimp should be plump, pink, and have a distinct snap when you bite into it.
里面的虾仁应该饱满、粉嫩，咬下去时有明显的脆爽感。
Second is char siu bao, steamed barbecue pork buns.
第二个是叉烧包，即蒸制的烧烤猪肉包。
They are fluffy, snowy white buns that split open at the top like a flower, revealing a rich, sweet,
它们是蓬松、雪白的面包，顶部像花朵一样裂开，露出浓郁、甜美、
and savory dark pork filling.
以及咸香的深色猪肉馅。
And third, you must try ting dai porridge, or sandpan porridge.
第三，你必须尝尝艇仔粥，也就是舢板粥。
Oh, sandpan porridge.
哦，舢板粥。
That has a wonderful story behind it, does it not?
那背后有一个美妙的故事，对吧？
I love stories about how dishes got their names.
我喜欢关于菜肴如何得名的故事。
It really does.
确实如此。
A sandpan is a traditional, flat -bottomed wooden boat.
舢板是一种传统的、平底的木船。
Decades ago, in the scenic Lichy Bay of Guangzhou, fishermen and vendors would cook this porridge
几十年前，在广州风景秀丽的荔枝湾，渔民和商贩会煮这种粥
right on their small boats and serve it to tourists who were boating on the river.
就在他们的小船上，提供给在河上乘船游览的游客。
The base is a silky smooth, slow -cooked white rice porridge.
基底是丝滑顺畅、慢火熬制的白米粥。
When an order was placed, they would throw fresh ingredients into the bowl.
当有人下单时，他们会把新鲜的食材扔进碗里。
Raw sliced fish, jellyfish strips, roasted duck, shredded egg, and crispy fried peanuts.
生鱼片、海蜇丝、烤鸭、蛋丝和香脆的油炸花生。
Then they poured the boiling hot porridge over it, which instantly cooked the delicate fish.
然后他们把滚烫的粥浇在上面，瞬间烫熟了鲜嫩的鱼肉。
The combination of textures, the crunchy peanuts, the chewy jellyfish, and the silky rice, enjoyed
丰富的口感结合——松脆的花生、有嚼劲的海蜇、丝滑的大米，享用
while floating on the water under the willow trees, was magical.
在柳树下的水面上漂流，真是神奇的体验。
Today, we eat it in modern restaurants, but every spoonful still carries the flavor of that old
今天，我们在现代餐厅里吃它，但每一勺依然承载着那份古老
river lifestyle.
河畔生活方式的味道。
That is beautiful.
那真美妙。
I can almost feel the gentle rock of the boat and the warmth of the bowl in my hands.
我几乎能感受到船只轻柔的摇晃，以及手中碗的温度。
It is amazing how a simple bowl of porridge can hold the memory of an entire era.
一碗简单的粥竟能承载整个时代的记忆，这真是太神奇了。
Now, moving from the water to the land, Guangzhou is also known as the flower city, or Hua Cheng.
现在，从水上回到陆地，广州也被称为花城，或华城。
Why is that?
为什么会这样呢？
Is there a special connection to flowers?
与花有什么特别的关联吗？
Yes, absolutely.
是的，当然。
Because of our subtropical climate, flowers bloom all year round here.
因为我们的亚热带气候，这里的鲜花四季盛开。
But the peak of this flower love affair happens during the Lunar New Year, when we host the
但对鲜花的热爱在农历新年期间达到顶峰，届时我们会举办
traditional Spring Festival flower markets.
传统的春节花市。
This tradition is over 100 years old.
这一传统已有 100 多年的历史。
In the days leading up to New Year's Eve, major streets are closed to traffic and transformed into
在除夕夜前的日子里，主要街道停止通行，并转变为
massive open -air flower markets.
巨大的露天花市。
They are crowded with thousands of people, decorated with red lanterns, and filled with the scent of
这里挤满了成千上万的人，装饰着红灯笼，充盈着...的香气
peach blossoms and fresh lilies.
桃花和新鲜百合。
We have a local saying, no flower market, no spring festival.
我们当地有一句俗话：“无花市，不春节”。
Families walk through the crowds together, buying orange kumkua kidneys for good luck, peach
家人们一起走在人群中，购买寓意好运的金桔，以及桃
blossoms for romance, and daffodils for prosperity.
花祈求爱情，以及水仙花祈求繁荣。
It is an incredibly lively, colorful, and sensory celebration of life and hope.
这是一场令人难以置信的活泼、多彩且充满感官享受的生命与希望的庆典。
It sounds like the whole city comes alive with color and fragrance.
听起来整个城市都因色彩和芬芳而变得生机勃勃。
It is a wonderful reminder of how closely connected the people of Guangzhou are to nature, even in
这是一个极好的提醒，让我们看到广州人民与大自然的联系是多么紧密，甚至是在
such a massive metropolis.
在这样一个宏伟的大都市里。
And that brings me to my next question, David.
大卫，这就引出了我的下一个问题。
Today, Guangzhou is a sprawling global megacity.
如今，广州已是一个庞大的全球性特大城市。
You have the Canton Tower, which is this gorgeous, sleek, twisting skyscraper towering over the
这里有广州塔，这是一座华丽、时尚、扭转的摩天大楼，耸立在
Pearl River.
珠江之上。
And you have Zhuzhong New Town, which looks like a sci -fi movie.
还有珠江新城，看起来就像一部科幻电影。
How do the locals balance this lightning -fast modern development with their beloved, slow -paced traditions?
当地人是如何在快节奏的现代发展与他们深爱的慢节奏传统之间取得平衡的？
That is the ultimate beauty of Guangzhou.
这就 是广州的极致之美。
It is a city with two heartbeats.
这是一个有着双重心跳的城市。
One heartbeat is fast, professional, and ambitious, which you see in the financial district under
其中一个心跳是快速、专业且充满雄心的，这可以在金融区看到，在
the glittering lights of the Canton Tower.
广州塔闪烁的灯光下。
But the other heartbeat is slow, relaxed, and deeply traditional.
但另一个心跳则是缓慢、悠闲且深具传统色彩的。
You can work in a high -tech office all day, but in the evening, you still go back to your local
你可以整天在高科技办公室里工作，但到了晚上，你依然会回到你所在的
neighborhood, sit on a plastic stool by the roadside, and enjoy a slow -cooked bowl of double -boiled
社区，坐在路边的塑料凳上，享受一碗慢火熬制的双炖
soup with your friends.
汤，与你的朋友一起。
The locals have a strong sense of cultural identity.
当地人有着强烈的文化认同感。
They refuse to let go of the things that make life pleasant, like spending three hours over morning
他们拒绝放弃那些让生活变得惬意的事物，比如花三个小时享用早
tea, speaking the musical Cantonese dialect, or visiting the flower markets.
茶，说悦耳的粤语方言，或者逛花市。
There is a beautiful term we use, which means exquisite and comfortable.
我们有一个很美妙的词汇，意思是精致和舒适。
It is a lifestyle philosophy that prioritizes living well, being relaxed, and enjoying the present
这是一种生活哲学，它优先考虑健康生活、保持放松并享受当下
moment, no matter how fast the world around us is changing.
时刻，无论我们周围的世界变化得多么迅速。
Exquisite and comfortable.
精致与舒适。
I think that is a philosophy we could all use a little more of in our busy modern lives.
我想，在我们忙碌的现代生活中，我们都可以多一点这种生活哲学。
David, listening to you talk about your home has been such a joy.
大卫，听你谈起你的家乡真是件令人喜悦的事。
Your descriptions are so vivid, and your love for Guangzhou is truly infectious.
你的描述如此生动，你对广州的热爱也真的很具感染力。
Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful stories with us today.
非常感谢你今天与我们分享这些奇妙的故事。
It has been my absolute pleasure, Emily.
这是我绝对的荣幸，艾米丽。
Thank you for letting me share the warmth, the tastes, and the gentle breeze of my beautiful
谢谢你让我能分享这温暖、滋味和温柔的微风，关于我美丽的
hometown with your listeners.
家乡，并带给你的听众。
I hope many of them will come visit us soon, pull up a chair, and join us for a cup of tea.
希望他们中的许多人能很快来拜访我们，拉把椅子，和我们一起喝杯茶。
I am sure many of them are already booking their flights in their minds.
我相信他们中的许多人已经在脑海中预订好了机票。
Well, listeners, that brings us to the end of today's episode of TalkCast Discovery.
好了，听众朋友们，今天的《TalkCast Discovery》节目到此就结束了。
Before we say goodbye, we have our weekly quiz question for you, based on today's conversation.
在说再见之前，我们根据今天的对话为您准备了每周问答题。
Listen carefully.
请仔细听。
What is the literal meaning of the words dim sum in English?
“点心”这个词在英文中的字面意思是什么？
And what does this beautiful phrase represent in Cantonese culinary culture?
而这个美丽的短语在粤式烹饪文化中代表着什么？
Write down your answers in the comments section below, or check out what other listeners have written.
请在下方的评论区写下您的答案，或者看看其他听众写了什么。
It is always so much fun to see your responses.
看到你们的回复总是件很有意思的事情。
If you enjoyed today's journey into the cultural heart of Guangzhou, please consider becoming a
如果你喜欢今天进入广州文化核心的旅程，请考虑成为一名
TalkCast member, subscribing to our channel, and sharing this episode with your friends who are
TalkCast成员，订阅我们的频道，并与你那些正在
learning English or who love travel.
学习英语或热爱旅游的朋友分享这一集。
Your support and feedback mean the world to us, and help us keep producing these episodes.
您的支持和反馈对我们至关重要，并能帮助我们继续制作这些节目。
Do not forget that the full English transcript and audio of today's show, along with previous
不要忘记，今天节目的完整英文文本和音频，以及往期的
episodes, are regularly updated on our website, at www .talkcast .top.
节目，都会在我们的网站 www.talkcast.top 上定期更新。
Please go there to check them out.
请到那里去查看吧。
Finally, we want to hear from you.
最后，我们想听听您的意见。
What destination or culture should we explore next?
我们下一步应该探索哪个目的地或文化？
Leave a comment with the place you are most curious about, and your suggestion might just become the
留下评论告诉我们你最好奇的地方，你的建议可能就会成为
theme of our next episode.
我们下一期的主题。
Until next time, keep exploring, keep listening, and keep stepping off the map into the world.
下期见，保持探索，保持倾听，继续走出地图，迈向世界。
I am Emily, and this is TalkCast Discovery.
我是埃米莉，这里是 TalkCast 探索。
Goodbye, everyone!
大家再见！
